As I was checking the weather online yesterday I noticed that the most read article at the weather channel was on how to reduce stress.
We change accelerating, we live in a stressful world… so we need every way possible to reduce stress. This is important because stress is a great inhibitor of wealth and the root of a great deal of disease.
In a moment I’ll share ways to reduce stress by visiting sacred sites in Ecuador or enjoying sacred celebration from India. First let’s look at how the Ecuador India connection began and how this ancient link it can help reduce stress.
One reason to enjoy Ecuador or India are these country’s very cosmopolitan low stress attitudes towards earning and living in tune with nature.
For eons, Ecuador’s unique position and coastal existence allowed interaction with the people of areas we now call India, China and Japan. A great deal of the wisdom in the ancient Asian cultures passed into the Andean and Equatorial Pacific cultures… and vice versa.
The root of one of Ecuador’s indigenous languages (Quichua) for example is Sanskrit… or vice versa.
You can see the Ecuador India connection in many ways. When Merri and I hiked into the LLanganatis with friends and a Taita Yatchak, one of these friends was Jay Glaser M.D., an MD who specialized in Ayurveda (the healing science of India). He (along with Dr. Deepak Chopra) was medical director of the Ayurvedic Health Center in Lancaster, Massachusetts. Jay helped us see how similar Andean words and health philosophies were to India’s .
Here we are with the yatchak in the LLanganatis. Jay and his wife are far right.
On that trip, Jay helped us learn that both Andean and Indian traditions describe and use many medicinal plants in similar ways.
Anther example of the Ecuador India connection we discovered was the name of valley where we hiked… “Llanganatis.” This name is pronounced “Yanganatis” which Jay discovered means “Repeated Sacred Action”. The Sanskrit word for repeated sacred action is “Yagya”.
Yagyas, in India, are repeated sacred words, sounds or thought with astrological roots.
Ecuadorian shamans also have sounds based on the sun, moon, stars, month, weeks and days, in the form of chants that they use in ceremonies and combine with exercise.
These sounds can help reduce stress.
Recent messages Ecuador Shamanic Imagination & Longevity and Imagination for Ecuador Real Estate Profit looked at power of thought… intention… imagination.
One view that can be taken of the universe is a manifestation of an infinite number of frequencies of time through space. Frequency may be everything. Frequency certainly affects markets of all sorts…energy commodities, equities, metals, crops, currencies. Many traders study frequency (charts) minutely. Most technical trading is based on frequency. Market momentum is almost everything to technical traders”.
Those who look at the universe in this way are viewing quantum aspects of existence. Quantum mechanics is the part of science that tells us that our world is not anything like we expect or can even imagine. The quantum state is the world where our intention turns energy into matter. At the quantum level everything comes from nothing. The present, future and past are one. Atoms spin up and down at the same time but when observed, choose a direction to spin depending on the universe we are in.
Quantum thinking is impossible in logic, but learning to function from this level of our existence can improve our lives at every level.
This is why Merri and I have use Andean chants, Andean and Indian exercises and meditation for years. We have found that they help unify us with the human part of quantum existence. This union is invaluable when it comes to eliminating the stress of making decisions, that are beyond our logical abilities, about health, wealth and family.
The inability to measure the results of quantum thinking used to bother me enormously until I observed how well this thought modality worked for us.
There is plenty of support for this thinking as well.
Years ago I read an article about Aristotle Onassis. He was asked about his use of astrology. His reply was that to be a millionaire, astrology wasn’t really needed, but to become a billionaire, it was essential! This struck a chord as I lived in Hong Kong and saw the most successful businessmen there (often billionaires) look beyond logic. To make billions one has to take enormous risks. Taking such risks require us to see in ways that go beyond our logic, reason and understanding.
Malcolm Gladwell’s book “Blink” touches on our ability to think beyond logic. He explains how humans have the ability to spot patterns and behavior based on very narrow slices of experience. He calls this process “Thin Slicing”, a way to make fast, accurate decisions.
The President of Hypnotic Marketing, Inc., an Internet marketing firm in Texas is one of the top marketers in the world. The president, Dr. Joe Vitale uses this type of thought process and yagyas in business.
He has written so many books on how to succeed I can’t list them all here. He is the author of the international best-seller, “The Greatest Money-Making Secret in History!”, the best-selling e-book “Hypnotic Writing”, and the best-selling Nightingale-Conant audioprogram, “The Power of Outrageous Marketing”, along with numerous other works. He has written books for the American Marketing Association and the American Management Association, including The AMA Complete Guide to Small Business Advertising and his clients include small presses to large publishing houses, such as Doubleday Books in New York. He has also helped large companies, from The American Red Cross to Hermann Children’s Hospital in Houston.
He shares two heart-warming stories about astrology, one of a life saved and the second about a new business paradigm.
Joe is a fiery and inspiring speaker. He has spoken before hundreds of business groups, including the Sales and Marketing Executives, and the first Houston Publishers and Authors Association conference. You read earlier about his publishing and consulting successes. The point is Joe is very much a man of the modern, Western business world. He is well into the ideals of Western wealth, money and success in materialism.
Yet Joe was going through a transformation and was writing new books about the spiritual aspects of wealth. He needed help in marketing these new books. Since we do not know Joe, we’ll use his exact words from his best selling book (it outsold Harry Potter at Amazon.com) about how he used astrology.
Success Guidelines Tale
“Karmic Surgery” by Dr. Joe Vitale
“Dr. Marcus Gitterle is an emergency room physician and anti-aging specialist. We met after he read one of my books, love it and emailed me, saying he lived in the same small town I do. We had lunch and became quick friends.
“One day, he told me about a way to do “karmic surgery”. This was new to me and made me aware of a new tool that was almost magical. It could help you release any troubling problem, or heal any condition, or achieve any intention, and do it without your doing anything. In fact, others did it for you.
“Marc explained it like this: “Just as you have a problem and go into the surgery, the problem is taken out while you are asleep. When you awaken, the problem is no longer there. You might be told to rest more, to drink more fluids, but in essence you are now free of the problem. All you did was agree to let others remove it for you.”
What that doctor was talking about was yagyas… Sacred Indian chats.
A yagya is a Vedic mantra, a sound of correct pronunciation and rhythm that creates a frequency aimed at influencing specific imbalances. One could call it an organized, specific prayer. Viewed in a scientific manner a yagya is a dedicated frequency. A recent message Ecuador Wonders took a view on frequency and its role in our quantum existence.
Joe gave a testimonial on how yagyas influenced his best friend. He wrote:
“Saved from Death”
“My best friend of two decades was on her death bed a year ago. After being in a near-fatal car accident, having both knees replaced, her back broken, suffering from depression, then becoming suicidal and anorexic due to medication she never should have accepted, she was taken by ambulance to the hospital, where she lay unconscious and dying.
“We had already tried everything. She had gone to healers, doctors, therapists, and psychiatrists. I hired home health care for her. She prayed, meditated, listened to tapes. I asked 500 friends of mine to pray for her and send her healing energy. Nothing was breaking her free. I feared I would lose my best friend of 25 years.
Joe then tells how in desperation, he used yagyas to find ways to help her. He writes:
“Within two days she woke up in the hospital, sat up, and stood up. The day before, she could not move or even turn over in bed! Now she was ready to go home. The hospital was stunned. The doctors couldn’t explain it. They kept her for further testing and observations.
“She just got better and better. A week later, this same woman who was near dead, was released from the hospital. She is now walking, talking, smiling, driving, and very glad to be alive. I saw her yesterday. I thought I might never see her again. This is a genuine miracle.
Joe says that this is the power of yagyas.
Then Joe tells how he used yagyas to help create a publishing miracle as well. He wrote:
“As you know by now, this book you are holding is based on a popular little work I released a few years ago called, Spiritual Marketing. I knew the book contained a powerful five-step process for manifesting your heart’s desires, and I knew it from all the people who emailed me every day, telling me their miraculous stories.
“What frustrated me was the fact that the book was basically available only online. I knew that it needed to reach a wider audience. So I set the intention to find a strong publisher, with distribution abilities, and the power to get my book out there into the world.
Joe tells how he used yagyas and says: I didn’t know how this would work, or if it would. But I trusted. I took action. “Within a few weeks, I received an email from the senior editor at Wiley who is now the publisher of this very book! Now stop and think about this. My original book, titled Spiritual Marketing, had been a number one best-seller at Amazon twice. Its success had been written about in the New York Times. The e-book version of the book had been down-loaded an estimated one million times. The e-book had been translated into seven languages. Thousands of people wrote me about it. The best agent in the country shipped the book to major publishers for two years. “Yet” nothing!
Joe explains that nothing ever happened to bring the book to a global audience until he used astrology to help his intention and to clear any inner blocks preventing his goal from manifesting. He explains that yagyas are a way to clear current blocks “whether those blocks are from this lifetime or another” so you can go on to attract whatever you want.
There are wild, weird and wonderful ways that you can use our global contacts and experience to reduce stress with quantum thinking as well.
One way is through yagyas.
Years ago, Merri and I helped Dr. Deva Shankar Dixit and his Vedic Life Foundation to buy land near the Ganges River to create a yagya center .
The Vedic Life Foundation is a non profit organization established to share traditional Yagyas and with the world.
The yagya center is close to the Ganges River in one of India’s holiest places, Brahmavarta (Bithoor), in Kanpur, U.P., India.
This is the yagya center that provided the yagyas mentioned above for Dr. Joe Vitale. Today Vedic Life Foundation is the second largest Vedic yagya organization in India. Around six thousand people globally have received Vedic yagyas from the center.
Dr. Dixit with Vedic priests at the yagya center.
Now Dr. Dixit has finished construction so his pundits have a holy place to repeat their yagyas.
Change creates stress and we live in a world of accelerating change. We however do not have to be victims of excessive stress. Getting in touch with our own quantum reality helps us know change and understand how to gain health and wealth from it in this modern world.
Another way to learn more about eliminating stress through quantum thinking is at our upcoming Super Thinking + Spanish seminar and at our March 2010 Ecuador Shamanic Tour.
Ecuador shamans use music in their ceremonies.
like at this Ecuador shaman minga.
Here is a longevity secret.
This is a recent comment from a reader in the Pacific Northwest: Gary, Thank you very much for this product. I have taken it for 2 months, am down 20 lbs of fat and put on 5 or 6 lbs of muscle. I currently weigh 194lbs on my way down to 178 where I was 2 ½ years ago. My blood pressure has gone from dangerously high to 133 over 83 and headed further South. I am 70 years old and feel terrific since using this product. It has done wonders for my energy.
If you see more orders come from my area I may be the cause of it as I’ve been spreading the word. I’ve shared it with personal trainers in my gym who train boomers and others and have some credibility as they see it working well for me.
Ecuador Longevity Secret
Merri and I lived and worked with this Ecuador Yatchak for seven years. This photo was taken after a purification ceremony at a sacred spring.
A huge health focus by this yatchak was purification… from the inside and out. He had us walk in mountain mists. The negative ions in the mists attached to free radicals and purified the skin to cleanse us from the inside out.
Another purification was of our blood. Herbs… minerals and a low calcium diet. There was almost no dairy served.
Since it is difficult for most of us to eat cleansing food in the West, this message looks at a longevity alternative and begins by showing how and why, in the 1960’s, due to strict OSHA regulations, the government curtailed a simple (and incredibly low cost) amino acid that can help improve cardiovascular systems, increase memory, improve vision, enhance vitality, expand energy and extend lifespan.
Access to good health care is vital and should be enjoyed by all. Yet it is not. It had been a Western birthright… each generation living longer than the last. New research shows this is no longer true for all. Government studies show that there are widening gaps in life expectancy based on income, race, sex, education and geography.
There are two Americas measured by wealth and health, and the distortions are growing.
A government-sponsored study by Harvard researchers found that life expectancy actually declined in a substantial number of counties from 1983 to 1999, particularly for women. Most of the counties with declines are in the Deep South, along the Mississippi River, and in Appalachia, as well as in the southern Plains and Texas.
The article went on to say that the people of Appalachia used to be among the longest lived. I can believe it. There is a family cemetery here on our farm. These five headstones show the occupants lived to be 86, 91, 95, 100 and 115! The 115 year old lived from 1794 to 1909. I wonder what type of medical insurance she had back here in these hills?
Here is that cemetery.
This problem of declining service is growing in more sectors than just American health care.
This growing gap is a concern on many fronts…but means, that in many parts of the Western world, good health care is only available to an increasingly smaller portion of top earners.
To overcome this problem Merri and take many steps to improve how we feel each day and hopefully enhance our activity and longevity. We meditate daily… have a strong sense of purpose in our business and life, keep a regime of regular, mild exercise and yoga and eat our own or locally grown food whenever we can. We also use numerous nutritional disciplines… including a mix of nutrients recommended some years ago by a reader and seminar delegate.
This delegate was an M.D. He was in his eighties but had the energy and looks of a much, much younger man. When asked about his secret of youth he said his vitality was based on several factors. A few of them you would expect, such as good diet, sufficient exercise and plenty of activity in a strong, purposeful life. Then he explained another secret of his youth and energy: chelation.
The youthful doctor told us he had been running the largest I.V. chelation center in the United States from Hawaii. Hardening of the arteries is such a huge problem in our modern world that he was making a fortune.
Then, he said, he had learned about Beyond Chelation (TM) a vitamin-mineral formula created by Dr. Gary Gordon. The doctor said he found this so effective that he shut down his clinics and exclusively used this simple formula which he (after seeing the results of Dr. Gordon’s formula) felt had better results than I.V. chelation therapy.
Over 30 years of Dr. Gordon’s experience as a clinician, researcher and educator in chelation therapy are behind this comprehensive cardiovascular nutritional supplement, designed to maintain and promote vascular health, mental and physical well being.
Our client and doctor friend gave us a month’s supply of this formula. He thought it would be excellent for us and would help us with traveling also. Merri and I tried this product ourselves and felt great, plus we loved the savings we enjoyed. It is so much less expensive than all the numerous other vitamins and minerals that we had been taking. We actually were spending less! In addition this system is so convenient. Everything is in one simple daily packet. Especially when we travel we just bring along a packet for each day we are on the road. No more loading up pill boxes or bringing bottles (or suitcases full of bottles) of vitamins and stuff.
We liked this product so much we began passing the favor on to many delegates at seminar. As is so often the case when we like something we start talking about it and pretty soon, a batch of friends were taking Beyond Chelation Improved and telling us great things about their experiences.
Here is an example of raves we receive on April 21, 2012 from a delegate who received a month’s supply in early March:
I was introduced to and given 30 days supply of a product (for which I must thank my good friend, Merri Scott, profusely) that is clinically proven to clean out the blood and much much more.
Almost Miraculous results? Well…you be the judge.
Look at the 2 blood tests (lipids,sugars etc.) I had done recently, just 2 months apart.
My Cholesterol was 330 then, 169 now!
My triglycerides were 1350 then, 199 now!
Both incredibly, dangerously high, if fact doctor said he never saw or even heard of Tri’s so high. (I checked on the internet, others do have them that high).
My (FBS) Blood sugar was 150, now 129!
Hemaglobin count up appreciably (red blood cells), which is real good too!
And Blood Pressure at the time was 130/80, a bit high, now 107/70= Perfect said the doc!
Man I feel a whole lot better too.
How did I do it?
1) Exercise greatly intensified & consistent= 3-5 days a week in gym weight-lifting, plus biking-walking-swimming.
2) Diet= a) Dropped fatty meats (ie. Bacon/Pork chops etc).
b) “NO WHITES ALLOWED” DIET= No white Sugar, Flour or Starch (yes= ouch!).
b-1= Cut non-white and white GLUTENS (mostly Gluten-free) too!
b-2= Mucho water, and only purely natural fruit juices… fresh squeezed & ground (minimized frequency).
b-3= More adamantly continued NO ALCOHOL consumption!
c) Added more fresh veggies & fruits, as many as can be found in BZ (Not many veggies variety esp).
I had been adjusting diet and starting to exercise (Gym= Weights & Biking) 3 months before the tests so who knows if they were even higher before I tested?
The slight dieting and much more exercising alone, evidently, did not change it much!
I have lost about 33 lbs of fat ,and gained 10 pounds of muscle, so I am down 23 lbs, from 244 to 221!
Lost some love-handle & gut inches ! I am going for under 200, over the next few months,where I haven’t been for about almost 20 years!
I have had high cholesterol and triglycerides, since I was in my mid to late 30’s (now 58),and always did diet and exercise changes to adjust them down a bit, but never were they anywhere near this “before drastic action” high before, nor have they ever been this low after the 2nd test and resultant phenomenal improvements! I continue to refuse to take the poisonous Pharmaceuticals Doc’s keep trying to stuff down my gut! No PHARMA. PHARMA-KILLS!
“Health is our greatest Wealth”…no assets have real value when we lose it!
Thank God for: good friends, good food, good info, good nutrition, good energy, good exercise, and good health!
May Goodness & Mercy follow & lead us, over the mountains and thru the valleys, revealing light thru the darkness all the days of our lives!
I DO FEEL SO GOOD again! Via Con Dios !
They reordered so much of it through us that I decided to make it available to all my readers at a really special price… lower than I believe you can get anywhere on the internet to see if readers are interested in obtaining Beyond Chelation Improved through us.
Let me begin by saying that Beyond Chelation Improved has not been evaluated by the FDA. This product is not intended to diagnose, cure or prevent disease and should only be taken as a food supplement. Having said this I share Dr. Gordon’s information below.
Dr. Garry Gordon of Payson, Arizona, is one of the fathers of the Chelation Therapy movement and he developed this cardiovascular nutritional supplement called “Beyond Chelation”.
This supplement combines more than sixty ingredients, known to have beneficial effects, into one total cardiovascular support program. “The name of this new product states exactly what it is,” says Dr. Gordon. “It’s what the public should be taking if they’ve already had chelation or can’t afford it, or simply want to take advantage of new breakthroughs that permit us to safely and effectively reduce the risk of heart attack and stroke.” In addition to promoting heart health, Dr. Gordon has found that his supplement has multiple anti-aging effects. Along with Dr. Dean Ornish of Sausalito, California, who demonstrated in a five-year study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association that heart disease could be reversed, Dr. Gordon believes that vascular disease can be arrested and cured. However, for those unable to stick to an extremely low-fat diet (below 9% in total fat content) and the meditation and exercise mandated in Dr. Ornish’s program, Beyond Chelation may provide similar effects. In his own practice, Dr. Gordon has been able to document significant improvements of blood flow to the legs, head and heart of patients experiencing problems of clot, spasm and arrhythmia with the use of oral chelation formula so that fewer than 5% have had to have heart surgery.
There are many benefits from chelation:
- Helps to prevent Arteriosclerosis (Hardening of the arteries)
- Helps to rejuvenate your cardiovascular system
- Helps to improve conduction in all degrees of A-V heart block
- Helps to abolish extra heart beats, skipped beats and rapid heart beats
- Helps to decrease ventricular arrhythmia due to digitalis toxicity
- Helps as a pre-operative preparation
- Helps remove lead and heavy metals from the system
- Helps increase American life expectancy
- Reduces toxic lead and metal deposits and abnormal calcium deposits
- Reduces blood pressure and blood cholesterol
- Improves circulation
- Improves vision and hearing
- Improves liver function
- Improves skin texture and tone
- Helps prevent abnormal cross linking of molecules that age tissue
- Helps to relieve symptoms of senility by increasing circulation to the brain
- Helps to relieve pain, hypoglycemia, phlebitis and scleroderma
- Dissolves fats in plaque lined arteries
- Helps make blood slippery and prevents abnormal blood clotting
- Helps to increase tissue oxygenation
How does Chelation Therapy work?
It is a largely hidden fact that the main blood vessel leaving the heart of a healthy 80 year old man has 140 TIMES more pathologic calcium in it than the main blood vessel of a healthy boy of ten. By means of chelation therapy, this unwanted calcium (causing a build up of vulnerable plaque, hardening of the arteries, and potential heart problems) is removed from blood vessels and put into water-soluble complexes (chelates), which are readily excreted through the kidneys. Clinical observations reveal, however, that the amount of calcium in bones is not affected by the removal of calcium in the arteries nor is it diminished by the use of EDTA chelation therapy.
What is EDTA and is it safe?
Chelation therapy (using the synthetic amino acid known as EDTA) has been a standard treatment for lead and heavy metal poisoning since World War II. In the 1940’s and 1950’s, patients taking EDTA chelation therapy for lead poisoning reported improved memory, vision, hearing and smell, and diminished leg and heart pain. Since then nearly 1,000,000 patients with cardiovascular disease have been treated successfully. Further, EDTA has been used as a food additive for over 30 years, the average American consuming between 15-30 mgs in their diets daily.
Why was EDTA put on the back burners?
In the 1960’s, prior to the current strict OSHA regulations, workers poisoned by high levels of lead at their jobs were given EDTA tablets by their company doctors to excrete the lead. The government, wanting to get to the source of the problem, ordered this remedy to be curtailed and the working environment improved. Because of this situation and with this order, oral EDTA chelation went into seclusion.
Why is Oral Chelation surfacing now?
Through almost 30 years of comparative case studies, researchers have discovered that oral and IV EDTA chelation therapy (especially when augmented by scientifically formulated nutritive support) improved the functioning of most organs of the body. Recently, biological age determination testing has gained widespread scientific acceptance, which allows us to prove that Chelation therapy improves the functioning of most organs, effectively turning back their biological clocks. It also may be a solution to the newly discovered cause of 85% of the major heart attacks now targeting half of the American males in the United States who are over 40 years of age: vulnerable plaque.
Preventive Medicine and Longevity Medicine: the Medicine of the Future!
Anti-Aging, Longevity, and Preventative Medicine are the Future! With our knowledge of alternative medicine doubling every three years and our technology advancing exponentially, we are entering an age where we are able to probably turn our biological clock backwards! Instruments are now in use that can measure the functioning of each of our physical organs and new high potency nutritional supplements, hormonal balancing, and advanced oral chelation products have become available which can enhance the functioning of our organs and help prevent heart attacks and fight many of the auto-immune and degenerative diseases that are plaguing modern society.
What is “Beyond Chelation”? With over 30 years of experience as a clinician, researcher & educator in Chelation Therapy, Dr. Gordon has formulated a comprehensive cardiovascular nutritional support supplement designed to maintain and promote cardiovascular health and combined it with the finest ingredients known for mental and physical well being within a product known as “Beyond Chelation,” the new cardio-support, multi-vitamin-mineral of the future augmented by amino-acids, polysaccharides, herbs and more.
There is one more benefit and that is the savings and convenience. Taking Beyond Chelation Improved provides almost every vitamin and mineral that we were previously taking in separate form. Merri and I have actually reduced our spending on vitamins and minerals. Plus Beyond Chelation Improved comes in a handy nine capsule cellophane packets, that is easy to carry and take each day. One container has thirty packets, a month’s supply, which at $59.998 (49.99 plus $9.99 shipping) makes this a very inexpensive way to get most of the vitamins and minerals you already take as you gain the chelation benefits.
Beyond Chelation Improved (TM) consists of 30 packets with 9 capsules. Each packet contains: three multi-vitamins/minerals, three detoxifiers (which deliver a combined total of 400 mgs of EDTA), one Omega 3 marine lipid concentrate, one evening primrose oil and one Ginkgo Biloba capsule. This formula provides the finest multi-vitamin/mineral available and essential ingredients to feed the heart, chelators to help rid the body of heavy metals and help control chronic inflammation, which now is known to be the MAJOR cause of heart attacks and strokes. It also provides Ginkgo Biloba with phosphatidyl serine and choline for their proven neuroprotective effects, as well as their anti-platelet activity.
Dr. Gordon has purposely left IRON out of this supplement because recent research has linked the availability of iron to infectious organisms in arteries, which are now proven to be directly linked to blood clots that cause 85% of heart attacks and strokes.
Beyond Chelation Improved $49.99 + (9.99 shipping) Order a month’s supply here.
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A reader wrote: This formula helped produce MIRACULOUS results for me in 30 days! No it’s NOT MLM, and NO I do NOT sell it!
Cholesterol from 330 to 169…triglycerides from 1355 to 199…blood sugar from 150 to 120…blood pressure from 130 to 107… plus aided in fat loss, energy gain…overall well-being…along with Exercise and the “NO WHITE” (sugar-flour-starch) diet!
I BLESS Gary & Merri Scott (GaryaScott.com) for introducing and gifting it to me, when I was at their Super-learning Spanish and Super-thinking course (which I highly recommend too= Mucho Mejor!) . It just may have saved my life…or helped alot! SALUD! Health is our greatest Wealth!
Longevity comes in many ways… prevention and good medical intervention when prevention did not do the job. Beyond Chelation and Ecuador health care are answers to both.
Learn more about longevity at our upcoming Super Thinking + International Investing and Business Seminar October 5-6-7 in North Carolina.